Update on LKG, my forthcoming Greek grammar

February 7, 2013

I received word this week that the manuscript that I sent to Baker last September has been declared an acceptable submission. (The editor actually referred to it as a very well prepared manuscript.) That means it has gone through both outside review (3 NT scholars/grammarians) and editorial review, been revised by me as needed (not much really–for which I was very thankful) and now moves into the various publication stages starting with copy editing. Look for it tentatively in Baker’s spring/summer 2014 academic catalog for release in May. If those of you who teach first year Greek need to get it in your syllabus and/or bookstore order sooner than that, get in touch with me next winter (and no, it won’t do any good to ask before that!) and I’ll put you in touch with someone at Baker. No promises on how soon you might be able to get a look, but it may be possible. Once I get dug out from a pile of things that have fallen on me in recent weeks (no, it wasn’t the pile on my desk! :) ), I will try to get some more info posted.

6 responses to Update on LKG, my forthcoming Greek grammar

  1. Thanks for the update!

  2. BryantJWilliamsIII February 8, 2013 at 3:58 pm

    Dear Rod,

    First, Congratulations! Not many GARBC approved Seminaries have Professors that are publishing texts such as you have.

    Second, Dr. George Gunn (Professor of NT and Theology and Greek at Shasta Bible College & Graduate School) sends greeting and congratulations also.

    Third, Let us know when we can review the Grammar:))))

    Rev. Bryant J. Williams III

  3. BryantJWilliamsIII February 8, 2013 at 4:40 pm

    Dear Rodney,

    I wonder if you have interacted with Dr. Carl Conrad’s views on the Greek Voice especially the Middle Voice?

    • Yes, my grammar will reflect the current consensus (?) on the middle voice and deponency (or actually, the lack thereof).

      By “consensus” I refer to the consensus of those scholars who are discussing the matter, esp. at recent year’s SBL sessions on the subject. I’m under no illusions that everyone else has acknowledged the validity of these conclusions. I’ve been working with this paradigm for quite a few years now, ever since Carl began arguing it on the b-greek list. Though he pressed me several times to commit one way or the other, it was not until I was invited to contribute to the Baylor series that I had to make a decisions since that series presumes what I call the current consensus view. So I spent about 6 mths working through the issues, etc. (which I’d not taken time to do previously) and concluded that Carl’s arguments were solid.

      I think that Mounce’s grammar was a key in popularizing a misdefinition of both middle voice and deponency. It was perhaps a pedagogical oversimplification, but his explanation that “in deponent verbs, middle = active” with only a few, rare uses of the “classical middle” has steered a whole generation the wrong direction. Of course, if there is no evidence that Greek ever “laid aside” the middle of certain verbs, then the whole question of the middle had to be re-examined.

      For more info on my grammar, see my posts from last Sept:
      http://ntresources.com/blog/?p=1842
      and
      http://ntresources.com/blog/?p=1852

  4. BryantJWilliamsIII February 8, 2013 at 7:49 pm

    Dear Rodney,

    Thank you for your response.

    I remember when some members and myself questioned the whole issue of Deponency on the BGreek list some years ago (about 12-13). It did not make sense for the Greeks to use a Middle Voice for the Active Voice. It was like the thinking of the English in place of Greek. I also think that recent advances in knowledge of Greek for itself as shown that there is much that has to be changed especially in the teaching, speaking and reading of Greek to grasp it especially for future pastors.

    BTW, on another note, Please accept my sincere condolences for the loss of your father. Over the next days, weeks, months and years you will appreciate his ministry to you and will see many aspects of yourself that is reflected in some of the things you do; that is part of the grieving process. Don’t short-circuit it.

    En Xristwi,

    Rev. Bryant J. Williams III

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